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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 20, 2009 19:42:55 GMT 7
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 21, 2009 9:22:05 GMT 7
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 22, 2009 12:08:07 GMT 7
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 23, 2009 7:35:07 GMT 7
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Post by paphioboy on Apr 23, 2009 8:22:09 GMT 7
New purchases or did you rebloom them..?
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 23, 2009 11:01:50 GMT 7
New purchases or old purchases in buds to be more precise, but since most were repotted many are now growing new leaves and roots. I would prefer the Phalaenopsis Hybrids grow at this stage rather than flower, can't wait for them to flower though. Phalaenopsis Hybrids are best observed at night under white lights for maximum effect & gratification.
Only 1 pot that was not repotted has sprouted a new spike which is about 6 inches long at the moment. ;-) I hope more orchid fanciers in Malaysia would post pictures of their Phalaenopsis Hybrids on this thread, as the focus on this forum has always been on Phalaenopsis species rather than Phalaenopsis Hybrids. and I am still wondering why!
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Post by theoman on Apr 23, 2009 16:45:55 GMT 7
Only 1 pot that was not repotted has sprouted a new spike which is about 6 inches long at the moment. ;-) I hope more orchid fanciers in Malaysia would post pictures of their Phal. Hybrids on this thread, as the focus on this forum has always been on Phal. species rather than Phal. Hybrids. and I am still wondering why! Hi Jeffry. First of all, welcome to this forum. Hope you will enjoy and will change some tips and tricks of planting orchids. Seems that you are specialize in Phalaenopsis, I assume… ;D Phalaenopsis species or hybrids, both are pretty and awesome but personally for me, I’m more to species. Why? First, it is more challenge to grow them. Second, it is also a challenge to flower them. Third, it is exotic. And some of the species are really unique which you can’t find two of them. Still, I do collect hybrids but selected one. So, whenever I feel stress, need to relax my mind, I will visit my plants. See the beauty of the flowers and get some aroma therapy, which phal bellina will provide me. ;D
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 23, 2009 17:36:03 GMT 7
Hi Theoman,
Actually I am a green horn with orchids. Started with Phalaenopsis Hyrbids in November 2008, so much for practical experience, huh! I have been learning about orchids & Phalaenopsis Hybrids in particular with much information on this forum and many others. We were extremely worried about bud blast back then. Phew!
You are right with stress thing though. My family & I remember vividly when the Phalaenopsis Hybrids literally glow at night with the lights on! Its was mesmerizing, to say the least. Yes, Phalaenopsis bellina smells nice thanks to abiom. However I do suspect that Taiwan breeders are now beginning to focus Phalaenopsis Hyrbids with scent in their breeding programs. Time will tell.
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 24, 2009 7:27:41 GMT 7
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Post by paktayyiob on Apr 24, 2009 9:09:53 GMT 7
Man........ana totally agreed with u Man.........The thrill......n that make the different. Further more there some of the sp are quite rear nowadays.....so to have a species in our collection will just make me satisfied.....as for me priority i'll go for species rather then Hybrid.Except for Bulbo.....Primary Hybrid ehm..ehm...Tapi mahal lah bang.....
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 24, 2009 10:04:09 GMT 7
Hi Paktayyiob,
Can you please explain in detail what you meant by Primary Hybrid? Thank you in advance.
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Post by paphioboy on Apr 25, 2009 10:19:06 GMT 7
Jeffrey, a primary hybrid is a hybrid made with 2 species as parents. For example, phal x valentinii is a natural hybrid of phal violacea and cornu-cervi. As opposed to complex hybrids where both parents used are themselves hybrids, like many of the Taiwanese phal hybrids...
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 25, 2009 11:06:32 GMT 7
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Post by harris on Apr 25, 2009 23:07:09 GMT 7
Jeffrey, This is an example of a primary hybrid I have in my collection, Phal Java (fimbriata X violacea). The lip has the hairy characteristic of fimbriata but the flower shape is more to violacea. When I first bought it, I thought it's Phal violacea var Sumatrana until someone pointed out the special hairy lip.
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Post by theoman on Apr 27, 2009 11:34:04 GMT 7
You are right with stress thing though. My family & I remember vividly when the Phal. Hybrids literally glow at night with the lights on! Its was mesmerizing, to say the least. Yes, Phal. bellina smells nice thanks to abiom. However I do suspect that Taiwan breeders are now beginning to focus Phal. Hyrbids with scent in their breeding programs. Time will tell. Hi Jeffery, Scent Phal hybrids are already in the market. They started it in 2006 but the price is still too high even today. I almost bought a hybrid keikis which leafs only 2 inches for RM35. Even our local agriculture institute, can’t remember; either MARDI or UPM, has done some experiment to induce orchids to produce scent flower. They don’t do the traditional way i.e. crossing species or hybrids to produce new hybrids. Instead, they use machine which look like chemotherapy equipment to inject selected ion into the orchids keikis. But the cost is expensive and the effect is not permanent. If someone do a tissue culture or self-crossing, the keikis of that plant will not inherit the scent flower. I wonder how Taiwan did it… ;D
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 29, 2009 17:53:19 GMT 7
Hi Theoman,
According to books, with the exception for cattleya, many other orchids species tend to loose their genes which produces fragrance through hybridization. However, I tend to suspect that Taiwan breeders have discovered mutated genes which allow scented Phalaenopsis Hybrids to be developed. This literally means bringing up thousands of seedlings, if not millions, as it is a numbers game. Experimenting with limited number of hybrid seedlings is insufficient unless 1 is very extremely lucky!
Contact with Taiwan breeders shows that scented Phalaenopsis Hybrids is extremely limited in variety at the moment. If you have pictures of fragrant Phalaenopsis Hybrids in flower, please post them here together with details about the flower. Thank you in advance.
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Post by paphioboy on Apr 30, 2009 10:07:20 GMT 7
Even our local agriculture institute, can’t remember; either MARDI or UPM, has done some experiment to induce orchids to produce scent flower. They don’t do the traditional way i.e. crossing species or hybrids to produce new hybrids. Instead, they use machine which look like chemotherapy equipment to inject selected ion into the orchids keikis. But the cost is expensive and the effect is not permanent. If someone do a tissue culture or self-crossing, the keikis of that plant will not inherit the scent flower. I wonder how Taiwan did it… ;D Theoman, MARDI yang buat. They bombard the plant cells with radioactive rays to produce mutation, but mostly done on cut-flower dendrobium to get peloric characteristics (petals look like lip).. and also splash colour mutations.. I'm not sure about the development of fragrant strains of orchids by this method..
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on Apr 30, 2009 19:27:03 GMT 7
I've amended the title of the thread to Modern Phalaenopsis Hybirds. I think its appropriately called in some books, to reflect the continous developments achieved by Phal. breeders worldwide on a consistent basis. Furthermore, if does separates itself from Phalaenopsis species very distinctly.
If I am not mistaken , variation of primary hybrids from Phalaenopsis species are more subtle when compared against Modern Phalaenopsis Hybrids.
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Post by Jeffrey M. Read on May 2, 2009 6:33:00 GMT 7
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Post by theoman on May 5, 2009 9:15:35 GMT 7
Even our local agriculture institute, can’t remember; either MARDI or UPM, has done some experiment to induce orchids to produce scent flower. They don’t do the traditional way i.e. crossing species or hybrids to produce new hybrids. Instead, they use machine which look like chemotherapy equipment to inject selected ion into the orchids keikis. But the cost is expensive and the effect is not permanent. If someone do a tissue culture or self-crossing, the keikis of that plant will not inherit the scent flower. I wonder how Taiwan did it… ;D Theoman, MARDI yang buat. They bombard the plant cells with radioactive rays to produce mutation, but mostly done on cut-flower dendrobium to get peloric characteristics (petals look like lip).. and also splash colour mutations.. I'm not sure about the development of fragrant strains of orchids by this method.. Cerita yang saya pernah dengar dari pensyarah/pegawai, diorang dah buat pada dendrobium dan phal, dan berjaya mendapatkan bunga yang wangi. Cuma diorang tak commercialise kan aja. Sebabnya, kos yang terlalu tinggi. ;D
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